Published 22/9/21, revised 8/10/21, notes added 25/11/21 & 8/1/22.
I have started looking at the Bible again since I was found by Jesus Christ. This was a surprise and a relief. I thought he was long gone. But in fact he survived his crucifixion and is active and important today. I had been doing reasonably well on my own, but this change solved the problem of despair that I had been unable to overcome. The labours of restoring health and reintegrating socially have been streamlined.
I have been listening to presentations by Christians, and while I have learned a lot there are some things that I am having trouble reconciling with the Bible, and with reality.
One of these is the interpretation of the creation account of mankind in Genesis one and two. It seems incongruous to consider these two accounts as the same event.
Here I am making a case that Genesis one and two tell of the creation of two different families. This reading seems clear. What is puzzling is why it is usually taught differently.
Also I propose that both families are alive and active today. Whether these two bloodlines make up the entirety of humanity, however, is a difficult question to answer.
When Was Adam Made?
The account of the making of the man who is known as Adam occurs in Genesis 2:7.
2:5-6 describe the conditions when he was made. He was already there when the birds and the animals were formed in verse 2:19. Comparing this to Genesis 1 shows that Adam was made on day three, after the making of the land and seas, and before the plants.
Here is a diagram which shows this.
To see the image full size click here When-was-Adam-made.png
Adam and Eve made by Yahweh
7 And YHWH Elohim formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.1
The wealth of evidence presented by Roger Spurr, the founder of Mudfossil University shows that the Earth is made from corpses of human giants and other large creatures. So the dust of the earth would have been a suitable material for forming a man.
8 And YHWH Elohim planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.
This indicates that the man was formed somewhere to the West of Eden.
Verse 10 confirms that Eden had a garden saying, “and a river went out of Eden to water the garden.”
18 And YHWH Elohim said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him a help meet for him. 19 And out of the ground YHWH Elohim formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof. 20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found a help meet for him.
The man in the garden is named as Adam. Sadly Adam was alone without a companion to help him.
Yahweh formed and brought all the animals and birds to Adam to give them names, which he did. He did not bring the water creatures.
21 And YHWH Elohim caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; 22 And the rib, which YHWH Elohim had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. 23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
Yahweh Elohim made a woman for Adam. He used anaesthesia and surgery in the process. Adam names them as Man and Woman.
The Elohim plural
Gen 1:26 And Elohim said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: [..] 27 So Elohim created man in his own image, in the image of Elohim created he him; male and female created he them.
The making of man and woman in their image was decided by the Elohim plural in 1:26, and enacted by Elohim in the singular in 1:27. Adam was made by Yahweh Elohim in 2:7.
I have had interaction with the Elohim in the spirit world. So from that I propose that the Elohim were a group and that Yahweh was the local Elohim. The others were outside this area of existence supervising and caretaking. I got the impression that they were brothers. There were more than five and less than ten of them. Note 25/11/21 Subsequent visions have left me uncertain whether they were the real deal.
Genesis 1:26 shows that the Elohim were a group. However, apart from this, the plural noun Elohim is used with a singular verb, and referenced by a singular pronoun throughout Genesis 1:1-2:3.
I propose that Elohim is used here as a collective noun, and describes the work of a body of individuals in the creation week, without specifying which member did what. Then in 2:4-25 it recounts the individual works of Yahweh Elohim in the creation, including the making of Adam and Eve.
To show a similar grammatical usage in English, take the name Hoover, the corporation who make vacuum cleaners. Hoover is a body of people named after a family.
“For more than 100 years, Hoover has designed powerful, easy-to-use products.”
to 1:25 “And Elohim made the beast of the earth after his kind, [..]”
These two phrases have a collective noun used with a singular verb.
“William ‘Boss’ Hoover became president of The Electric Suction Sweeper Company.”
to 2:8 “And YHWH Elohim planted a garden eastward in Eden; [..]”
These two phrases have a named member of the body used with a singular verb.
Gen 1:31 And Elohim saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
This verse shows that everything made in the six days of Genesis was very good. So that includes man and woman of 1:27. It also includes Adam who was made on day three. Eve was made out of Adam in 2:21-22, straight after the formation and naming of the birds and animals in 2:19-20. So that would place the making of Eve on day six. In that case Adam and Eve were also very good, until the eating of the forbidden fruit.
There is a Christian teaching that there are no good people. This is concerning since, as well as being counter-intuitive, all the creation of Genesis one was very good. Good people are mentioned in the Bible like in 2 Timothy where it is predicted that in the last days there will be those who despise and accuse good people.2
2 Timothy 3:3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
Differences between the creations of man and woman in Genesis 1 & 2
|Genesis One Family||Genesis Two Family|
|Made in Genesis 1:27||Made in Genesis 2:7 and 2:22|
|Created on day six||Creation of the man on day three|
|Created after the plants, sea creatures, birds and animals.||The man was created before the plants, sea creatures, birds and animals, and the woman after.|
|Created together as male and female.||The man was alone until the woman was made for him.|
|Little is written about them.||Adam’s descendants became kings of Israel, including King David and King Solomon.|
|Hebrew words for the act –|
Let us make [mankind], ‛âśâh.
And he created [them], bârâ’.
|The man was formed, yâtsar.|
The woman was built, bânâh.
|Mankind was made by Elohim.||The man was made by Yahweh Elohim.|
|Mankind was made in the image and likeness of the Elohim plural.|
|A raw material is not specified.||The man was made from the dust ‛âphâr, of the earth.|
|The woman was made with her man.||The woman was made from a rib.|
|Man and woman were very good.||Adam and Eve ate the forbidden fruit.|
|They were male and female |
zâkâr and neqêbâh.
|The male adam called himself ‘ı̂ysh, man.|
|ʺ ʺ ʺ ʺ ʺ||He called woman ish-shaw’. |
She is later named as chavvâh or Eve.
|They were ‘âdâm, meaning mankind.||The male ‘âdâm is named by the Bible as Adam.|
Hebrew transliterations are from studybible.info/KJV_Strongs/Genesis
So the Hebrew ‘âdâm means man, human or mankind, and is male and female. However in 2:19 the male ‘âdâm is named as Adam. This has caused problems.
So what became of the families of Genesis 1 & 2?
You might think that since the Genesis one family are hardly mentioned that they died out. But there is a large group of people who are hardly mentioned in history, and that is the ordinary people. These families labour and work with their hands.
Those who rule are written about a lot. In fact they do most of the writing. I propose that the descendants of Adam and Eve were prolific and populated the upper and middle class. These people work at desks, make decisions and create culture.
Marriage has always been strictly controlled with financial requirements and the need for parental consent. It has always been difficult for someone from the working families to marry someone from the ruling families.
With primogeniture only one child, usually the eldest son would inherit the seat and the property of a noble family. The other sons and daughters had to do something else. Many worked for a living. They became monks, nuns, priests, wives, merchants and officials. Two professions which have notable ruling class symbology and terminology are hostelry and the law. Many men became knights in the crusades. After the crusades there was a sifting of knights. Some were awarded coats of arms for their family and some were not. Ryan Reeves has given an overview of early and medieval church history in a video lecture series. Chapter 32 – The First Crusades (Part 1)
I propose that the middle class was peopled principally from the top down. William Cooper gave a radio broadcast on the 8th of March 1993 entitled The Skull and Bones, as part of his Mystery Babylon series. This covered the Templar origins of Freemasonry and gives a very good example of the peopling of the middle class by the descendants of aristocrats. Disinherited royals are prone to revolutionary and democratic ideology as a form of family infighting.
Note: Jan 2022. We do see this priest and pauper type social division in civilisations around the world. However, considering our history this is not a good fit with the families of Genesis 1 & 2, and this proposal will have to sit down. An example from biblical history is that when king Solomon built the temple he raised up a labour force of 30,000 from Israel, his own family (1 Kings 5:13). His corruption came later from breaking the first commandment. It may be better to consider the family of Genesis 1 simply as the rest of humanity.
Jesus Christ speaking to the people in the sermon on the mount, recorded in Matthew 5, called them the salt of the earth. He stated a righteousness threshold.
Matt 5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
Jesus in the same sermon also said,
“Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.”
22nd September 2021 at 4:32 pm
there were two adams. research sumarian scripture.